Did not expect this in my inbox this morning 😂 I'm a big Spurs fan and this game was a total mindf***. Wanting Spurs to win, but not as well. Because if your team doesn't have a chance to win a trophy or something, then the next best thing is to want your rivals to lose. Totally irrational, but it wouldn't be as fun if it was rational...
The first rule of getting into football as an 8 year old I'm now 50 years older ;) was - we hate Arsenal. I learnt why in my late teens that it was "boring boring Arsenal" during the managership of George Graham but I learnt also that it was something to do with the Woolwich Arsenal team moving from Woolwich to Highbury after the first world war. Rule 2 is Spurs never win anything
Totally agree. Everyone falls into a touch of schadenfreude at times but it’s an icky feeling afterwards, for me anyway. Stay in your lane. Compete against yourself.
Thanks Annie. It’s even worse because if Spurs had beaten City, as it turned out they would have qualified for the champions league, where all the best teams in Europe play and which makes the club a lot more money. As it is they go into the europa league with the also rans. Spurs fans would rather mediocrity than see their rivals win. Very small-minded. Reminds me of people who voted for brexit because they wanted to stick it to the elite with their foreign travel and gap years and au pairs and Italian delicatessens. Even if they were worse off themselves.
Very interesting! Perhaps it's always the problem when the system is built (and refined) by just the winners? So, if it came to the crunch, would you rather know that you voted with your heart, even if it turned out afterwards that the Tories scraped another term because the right wing united behind the Conservatives, whilst the left wing spread away from the less centrist or mild-right parties like Labour towards Green and others? Or is there a little more freedom to gamble on the candidates you actually like this time because the Tories are doing so badly anyway? I live in what is traditionally a very right wing constituency and we can't afford to gamble because it's definitely going to be a tight run race in my area, and it'll take every possible vote to keep out the longstanding Tory MP. It just reminds me a bit of Brexit, when so many people were sure of the outcome that they voted for it as a kind of protest vote that backfired (happy to say I voted against, but I was living in Stoke at the time and the local news interviewed a lot of people in the street who voted for it saying they didn't want it but wanted to give the Tories a scare (yes, insane thinking)).
Did not expect this in my inbox this morning 😂 I'm a big Spurs fan and this game was a total mindf***. Wanting Spurs to win, but not as well. Because if your team doesn't have a chance to win a trophy or something, then the next best thing is to want your rivals to lose. Totally irrational, but it wouldn't be as fun if it was rational...
.... so you were one of those fans!
I wanted us to play well but wouldn't be upset if we lost. We'd never live it down if Arsenal won the league thanks to us!
The first rule of getting into football as an 8 year old I'm now 50 years older ;) was - we hate Arsenal. I learnt why in my late teens that it was "boring boring Arsenal" during the managership of George Graham but I learnt also that it was something to do with the Woolwich Arsenal team moving from Woolwich to Highbury after the first world war. Rule 2 is Spurs never win anything
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Totally agree. Everyone falls into a touch of schadenfreude at times but it’s an icky feeling afterwards, for me anyway. Stay in your lane. Compete against yourself.
Thanks Annie. It’s even worse because if Spurs had beaten City, as it turned out they would have qualified for the champions league, where all the best teams in Europe play and which makes the club a lot more money. As it is they go into the europa league with the also rans. Spurs fans would rather mediocrity than see their rivals win. Very small-minded. Reminds me of people who voted for brexit because they wanted to stick it to the elite with their foreign travel and gap years and au pairs and Italian delicatessens. Even if they were worse off themselves.
Very interesting! Perhaps it's always the problem when the system is built (and refined) by just the winners? So, if it came to the crunch, would you rather know that you voted with your heart, even if it turned out afterwards that the Tories scraped another term because the right wing united behind the Conservatives, whilst the left wing spread away from the less centrist or mild-right parties like Labour towards Green and others? Or is there a little more freedom to gamble on the candidates you actually like this time because the Tories are doing so badly anyway? I live in what is traditionally a very right wing constituency and we can't afford to gamble because it's definitely going to be a tight run race in my area, and it'll take every possible vote to keep out the longstanding Tory MP. It just reminds me a bit of Brexit, when so many people were sure of the outcome that they voted for it as a kind of protest vote that backfired (happy to say I voted against, but I was living in Stoke at the time and the local news interviewed a lot of people in the street who voted for it saying they didn't want it but wanted to give the Tories a scare (yes, insane thinking)).